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Logitech Flight System G940 Force Feedback Joystick | 
| Brand: Logitech
Category: CE
List Price: $299.99
Buy New: $283.39
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Rating:  16 reviews
Color: Black
Media: Electronics
Autographed: No
Memorabilia: No
Shipping Weight (lbs): 127.7
Dimensions (in): 16.1 x 10.9 x 15.9
Warranty: 1 year warranty
MPN: 942-000011
Model: 942-000011
UPC: 097855062260
EAN: 0097855062260
ASIN: B002G1YPP2
Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days
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| Features:
| • | Authentic design inspired by military and commercial planes and helicopters | | • | Force Feedback Joystick | | • | Dual throttle lets you precisely control multi-engine aircraft using the split lever | | • | Rudder pedals with toe brakes | | • | Interactive, programmable throttle-base buttons |
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Product Description
From takeoff to landing, flying with Logitech Flight System G940 makes every aircraft behave and feel like the real thing. Feel wind on your wings. Control engines together or independently. And master tricky maneuvers.Every piece of Logitech Flight System G940 is carefully crafted with realism in mind. Logitech looked to military and commercial planes and helicopters for inspiration. You get an experience that's more realistic and more fun, with important controls that look, feel, and work just like the real thing.
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| Customer Reviews:
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 The Top Gun HOTAS - Dual Throttle! Force Feedback - Perfect for FSX Acceleration & IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 November 24, 2009
Kiyo M.
Watch Video Here: http://www.amazon.com/review/R2I8Q18P34UYQO The video review:
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The first part of the video/intro just shows some games I've used the G940 with (rather long).
If you just want to see the G940 unit in the video, skip to 3:28
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The retail box with everything in it weighs: 15.4 lbs.
Joystick weighs: 2.64 lbs
Dual Throttle weighs: 2.2 lbs
Rudder Pedals weighs: 6.17 lbs
Games I've tried this controller with:
* IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 (highly recommend! if you're going to get this controller, then you need this game; or if you already play this game a lot, then you need this HOTAS!)
* Microsoft Flight Simulator X / Acceleration
* Lock On: Modern Air Combat
* DCS Black Shark
* Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X
FORCE FEEDBACK:
The forcefeedback will vary depending on the software; it can get really insane or seem like a wasted potential. I find the force feedback excellent and works best with "IL-2 Sturmovik 1946"; when I fire my weapon, there's a nice rumble and really feels like I'm shooting. The rumble when taking off/landing is also great in IL-2/FSX. Now, if I set the force feedback to 150% then it'll vibrate just from the engine/flying - but that makes my hands feel weird/tired. However, for "DCS Black Shark" and "Lock On", the force feedback isn't as impressive; I don't feel anything when firing missiles. If "enable centering spring" is not checked in the Logitech Profiler, the joystick for the game "Lock On" is really loose unless I encounter G-force or crash.
OTHER THOUGHTS:
- Make sure the power plug is not loose at all; I wondered why the joystick became loose and no force feedback was going... and it was that simple mistake at times.
- The throttle has buttons that are green LED. There is a zip file called "JoystickSDK" on the software folder where you can mess with the LED to also red/amber/off. Unfortunately, since the G940 has only been released recently, there's no games that can take advantage of the color changing LED to indicate status of your aircraft/etc. It would be nice if it could at least make it change colors when switching modes on the throttle (there's up to 3)
- It comes with a set of cut-out button labels (and you can try to make your own, of course) where you can put underneath the LEDs, in case you forget what the button does. It's a nice touch, but since it has "P1, P2, P3... etc" printed bold right in the center of the plastic cover, it's actually hard to read.
- The Joystick base can get quite warm.
- The power plug, throttle, pedal all connect directly to the joystick.
- The throttle/pedal tension can be adjusted
- I wish there was some sort of click/lock or indication by feel when the trim is actually being centered.
- Has directional/hat-switch buttons on the throttle and joystick! But I highly recommend getting TrackIR! (I absolutely love that thing! It's a must for flying simulators and especially if you want to add more realism on top of this controller!)
Pros:
+ Looks and feels great; throttle and joystick handles are made out of rubber material so you'll have good grip. (although there are plastic parts that somewhat detract the overall quality)
+ Ergonomic joystick buttons (nice extra button for the pinky behind the joystick)
+ Force feedback (not your simple cheap gamepad controller vibration, but really simulates the effect).
+ Stainless steel rudder pedals
+ Throttle has a mode toggle switch button allowing more button configurations.
+ Love the dual throttle! (can also lock it to be single) - feels good in the hands.
+ Holes on the joystick/throttle for bolting it down.
Cons:
- Setting up the controls was quite a nightmare! Spent way too many hours trying to figure things out because button configurations could conflict from game or the Logitech Profiler. Don't even think you can just jump right in the cockpit and start flying with this. Would be nice to get more detailed step-by-step on properly configure things for the games (there is a PDF file included telling you how to set up correctly for FSX, Lock On, Falcon, IL-2).
- Makes this strange buzzing noise when the joystick is idle and not centered
- On old games/arcade style, it sees the HOTAS (joystick, throttle, pedal) as the same input device (ie: the X-Y axis for the joystick end up the same as the throttle). The only way for me to use the G940 with a game like H.A.W.X was to assign/emulate the keyboard buttons to the controller/assign "zones" (you can assign/trigger keys on certain positions, "zones", on the throttle if you'd like) to the throttle through the Logitech Profiler.
- Games that really fully take advantage of this HOTAS is limited (hopefully, this will change with more flying games/LED-changing support/etc.).
Although it's not perfect, overall, I give it a 5 stars because it makes flying more enjoyable (especially in IL-2) and it comes with all the essential parts to start flying/force feedback for an affordable price. I'm more of a racer and own the G25, but now Logitech has brought a "G25" version -- well, a "G940" -- to the open skies and now I've become addicted to flying. I really hope to see more flight simulator games supporting the G940 ready-to-go; the device should only get better as time goes by with better support just like it did with the G25. The G940 should become the standard in all future games. Logitech is really taking over the gaming peripherals and setting the bar for the mass consumers. Now, I hope Logitech will give us a nice yoke add-on with this!
 Nice design, poor quality November 21, 2009
T. J. Laven (St Paul, MN)
1 out of 1 found this review helpful
I was really looking forward to using the new G940 and very excited about the features like a split throttle and force feedback.
Sadly, after less than 1 month of very light use, the rudder and toe brake axes have near constant spiking, rendering the rudder pedals unusable. Logitech touted the contactless design of the pots but apparently they were only refering to the X & Y axes on the joystick.
I generally do not post reviews of products (though I do read and appreciate them) but people need to know my experience with this poor quality offering from Logitech.
In addition, Logitech's support is very slow - they promise an answer to online service requests within 24 hours, but I didn't receive an email response until about a week later, and then all the customer service rep asked for was the product information like model and serial number, which I had already provided in the online form (it was even contained in the text of the email respone to me).
I am extremely disappointed with the G940 - I will keep updating this review with my service experience.
G940 makes my MS Flight Sim dreams come true November 19, 2009
Fryfat (San Francisco, CA)
Ever since I first booted up MS Flight Simulator 5, I dreamed of having a real flight sim setup. Now that I have one, I've booted up MS Flight Sim X again, and it feels like I'm playing it for the first time. If only Meigs Field were still around, sigh.
Joystick:
- Great build quality. Solid, heavy, attractive.
- Like all the parts, it has hard points if you want to physically mount it to your desk or cockpit for ultra realism.
- Trim. Most joysticks don't have trim controls, so this was a nice surprise.
- All programmable buttons, which are nicely labeled and have an audible click when you press them.
- The base is large enough to rest your arm on, yet still maintain control.
- No "3D twist" like modern joysticks, though it's not really needed with rudder pedals, and is unrealistic anyway.
- Two hat switches.
- Force Feedback, something I hadn't used since the 90's, is welcome back. I missed it! It's adjustable as well, as everything seems to be with this setup.
Throttle:
- Nearly similar size to the joystick, a bit smaller.
- All the buttons light up, and again, are completely programmable.
- You can remove the caps for the buttons, allowing you to label them yourself.
- Throttle splits so you can have independent controls, allowing you to control two engines. The lock is sturdy though, when you have them joined, there's no wiggling and you won't notice that they can split.
- HAT switch, like on the joystick, an unexpected surprise.
- Really more buttons (and on top of that, a mode shift which doubles all the buttons) than I'll ever use.
Rudder:
- Stainless steel footrests, with grooves for the arch of your foot. Fancy.
- Adjustable tension, for those of you with strong legs, for sliding the pedals back and forth.
- Underneath, carpet spikes! I don't have carpet but I thought it was a nice addition.
- Toe breaks are great and work great.
Overall I'm enjoying this setup, I've read reviews of the competition(CH and Saitek) and it sounds like they need to play a little catch-up. The force feedback (not available from CH), dual throttle (unique), and little extras like hard points, make this *the* top of the line setup.
Has potential, but needs a lot of tweaking to get it working well. November 19, 2009
D. Bezboruah (Los Angeles, CA United States)
The Logitech Flight System G940 is a HOTAS system with rudder pedals included. I have been using it only with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004, so my comments would pertain if you play that game.
The three components of the system, the stick, throttle, and pedals all seem high quality. They all feel sturdy and hopefully would last for a while. The force feedback of the stick is quite strong; for someone who had never used a force-feedback stick before, it did take some getting used to.
Now the big issue that I had: configuring the system on your PC, which is not a piece of cake. Make sure not to install the software from the CD as it most likely is out of date; get it from the Logitech website instead. I could not understand the button assignment software (Profiler) that Logitech provides; I ended up having to configure all the buttons within the game instead. The rudder pedals are also toe brakes (meaning you can pivot the pedals to engage the brakes). Out of the box, they were way too sensitive. I literally would just let my foot come in contact with the pedal and the brake engaged. Also, the throttle had a serious issue in that when I had the physical throttle at idle (0%), the computer would think it is at 25%. When I move the throttle to full power (100&), the computer interpreted it as 75%.
This is a widespread issue as it's also posted on the Logitech support forum. Fortunately, someone there posted a solution to configure the "null zones" of the controllers under the sensitivities screen in Flight Simulator. It works almost perfectly...almost, because the throttle now seems to have gone from a 25-75% range now to a 2-98% range instead. Oh well, it's close at least.
Bottom line, I would say that this flight system is a good one, with high-quality build for hardware. Software-wise, it requires tinkering. Once you spend the time to configure and fine-tune the controls, it is a great system. However I have to take off one star since it isn't purely plug 'n play. It would have been nice to just plug the system in and go!
Lots of potential, but be aware of what you're getting November 16, 2009
David G. Dahlstrom
1 out of 1 found this review helpful
The G940 is a potentially great product that is difficult to give a *star* rating to. The reason is that your experience with it is going to depend hugely on what games you use it with, what your expectations are, and how patient you are.
If you are using this stick on a game that is programmed to use FFB effects and these effects have been programmed "correctly" (i.e. programmed in a manner specifically specified by Logitech for this stick), then you will probably have a wonderful experience. The trouble is, very few games are programmed to take advantage of this yet. So even though I believe the hardware on this system is top notch and capable of very high precision, its hard to know what will work well and what won't right now. FSX with the FS Force add-on evidently works great, for example, but other recent games such as DCS: Black Shark have poor FFB performance on this stick (other FFB sticks are said to be much better). Another very common issue with this stick is "slop", which is seen in many FFB games (including Black Shark), and is exhibited in EVERY non-FFB game. Basically, this means that the center 10 to 20 percent of travel in the middle of this stick has almost no center spring effect. This is a nasty, nasty issue that can evidently be overcome through software (either Logitech's for non-FFB games, or the game makers for FFB games), but to this date Logitech has not yet addressed this in non-FFB mode and this remains an unresolved issue for many FFB games. This is why, if you are expecting a great FFB experience out of the box, it will depend on games you own, whether the "slop" is an issue for you, and how patient you are to wait for Logitech and game makers to fix these issues.
I have heard that other Logitech FFB stick have similar issues, but one thing they need to know loud and clear is that when you introduce a serious HOTAS product with this kind of price tag, issues that aren't a big deal in a lower-end stick are just not acceptable in a product targeted at more "serious" use.
I purchased my first FFB stick (an MS FFB Pro) about ten years ago and it's amazing to me that the industry still doesn't have its act together. I enjoyed that stick for quite a while, but I stopped using that stick many years ago when I went with a full HOTAS setup, which up until now had no vendors offering a FFB solution. I had high hopes for the G940, but so far they are not yet met. I do have to say that the stick does offer other features that are quite nice and which overcome the FFB deficiencies fairly well for me. I am also going to hold out for improved software as Logitech is providing some strong hints that future revs of their profile software is going to offer some big improvements. Hopefully, this will be enough to push this stick to a solid 5 star rating.
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